KJV : Then I heard <08085> (8799) one <0259> saint <06918> speaking <01696> (8764), and another <0259> saint <06918> said <0559> (8799) unto that certain <06422> [saint] which spake <01696> (8764), How long [shall be] the vision <02377> [concerning] the daily <08548> [sacrifice], and the transgression <06588> of desolation <08074> (8802), to give <05414> (8800) both the sanctuary <06944> and the host <06635> to be trodden under foot <04823>? {that...: or, the numberer of secrets, or, the wonderful numberer: Heb. Palmoni} {of...: or, making desolate}NASB : Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that particular one who was speaking, "How long will the vision \i1 about\i0 the regular sacrifice apply, while the transgression causes horror, so as to allow both the holy place and the host to be trampled?"NASB# : Then I heard<8085> a holy<6918> one<6918> speaking<1696>, and another<259> holy<6918> one<6918> said<559> to that particular<6423> one<6423> who was speaking<1696>, "How<4970> long<5704><4970> will the vision<2377> <I>about</I> the regular<8548> sacrifice<8548> apply, while the transgression<6588> causes<8074> horror<8074>, so as to allow<5414> both the holy<6944> place and the host<6635> to be trampled<4823>?"